If you are considering buying two puppies together or if you already have a puppy and are considering getting another please read this first.

There are certain problems that can arise when two litter mates or two puppies of similar age are raised in the same home, unless precautions are taken to minimise them. Where one puppy would be bonding with his new human at 8 - 12 weeks old, two puppies that stay together are continuing to bond with each other, often to the exclusion of the new person in their life.
To ensure that each pup develops separately requires two dedicated people to take a puppy each and give them the attention and bonding opportunities that a single pup would have. This means that the pups spend ALL of their time with a person and only a limited time together, in the early days.

This includes:
Co-sleeping with their person
Separate walks
Separate play
Separate training
Separate meals

It is recommended to walk and play with the pups separately during this bonding period and occasionally walk and play together so that both pups learn to be attentive to their person with the distraction of each other.

RAISING LITTERMATES by Sally Bradbury

I have two pairs of siblings. The ONLY reason we got two puppies at the same time from the same litter is that we both wanted a pup from that litter. (We compete in Agility) Then three years later, same again.
In order to prevent problems associated with raising littermates we made sacrifices and put in a lot of work.
First of all we collected one puppy from the breeder and left the other one for six days so that they were totally separated for that time.
When we brought the second puppy home another week passed before they met again.
Hubby and I slept separately with a puppy each, and the night time toilet trips and early mornings they didn't see each other. (Nor did we).
Both of us spent lots of time training, playing and bonding with our pup and then both of us spent lots of time training, playing and bonding with both of them so that everything they could do individually they could also do together without being distracted by each other.
Mostly they were walked separately up to about 9 months old.
I usually recommend up to a year to ensure that you have two separate dogs responding to you when you do walk them together, and not two halves of a whole.

I have seen many heartbreaking cases of littermates in my professional career.

I have helped with re-homing a fair few halves of pairs as well, with ages ranging between 8 weeks and eighteen months.
Dogs that scream when they are apart and fight when together.
Pairs that are totally oblivious to their humans, one pair even ran into their owner when they were playing and broke her leg.
Others, where one pup has developed normally and the other is dysfunctional.
Once this has developed it is very difficult to turn it around because some things can only be learned in puppyhood. The dogs need to be separated to have any chance at rehab but often one or both simply cannot function without the other one so it's a catch 22.
Obviously,even though I've done it I don't recommend it unless there are two dedicated and experienced adults that are going to raise them.

DOUBLE TROUBLE - Two puppies at once?.. by Emma Judson
Hopefully you are reading this BEFORE buying any puppies at all, and are considering having two puppies at the same time, possibly littermates.
STOP!....Sit back down.. hold your horses.... wait a second...
Two puppies at once is one of those things, where one or two people...someone you heard of.. maybe a family member did it.. and got lucky..(we will come back to these people later!).
Believe me for the rest of you... its a slippery slope to a NIGHTMARE and a catastrophe and a wholly unenjoyable puppy/dog owning experience.
First, ask yourself why two puppies seems a better idea than one puppy?
The top answer is because 'two will keep each other company'. Now ask yourself why you need them to keep each other company - would that be because you arent going to be there so much?
If the answer is yes, then honestly... you don't have the time for one puppy. Not without making some other arrangements such as a puppysitter, a doggy daycare/creche, a family member minding the pup during the day, or being able to take the puppy into work with you.
IF none of the above can be done... then either wait until it can.. or consider an older dog who can cope with being left. Dog ownership is a privilege for those who have the time, money and patience.. not a right for those who plain 'want'.
Next top answers will be 'because they are cute/because the kids wanted one each/because we couldn't split them up/because we couldn't choose between them/ because the breeder offered us a discount if we took two....'
Puppies only LOOK cute because if they didn't we wouldn't put up with the horrible things they do. Puppies are NOT really cute at all.. stop thinking about cute, it baffles your brain and you forget the important things in life. Cute is a survival mechanism, its there to trick you. Ignore it! Puppies are incontinent, puppies BITE and they bite HARD. Puppies make extremely loud noises and demand and NEED your attention 24 hours a day. Puppies are extremely expensive, tiring and will eat your most expensive stuff, rip up your carpets and sofa, drag your shoes out into the yard and bury them.... make the neighbours hate you... make you sleep deprived... make you stand in poo... or wee... Puppies... are... not... cute!
What kids want... whilst sometimes important, is NOT important when it comes to 'I want a puppy'. Yes, sure they want a puppy... next week they will want to swap it for a Wii. The week after they want a skateboard - I have nothing against kids, I was one... but what kids want when it comes to cutesy things is NOT a reason to commit to 12+years of dog ownership.
Splitting puppies up is GOOD for them. Puppies together only practice being puppies, and I will get on to what that really means in a moment. Puppies do NOT learn how to be nice sensible adult dogs from other puppies, like toddlers do not learn how to be quantum physicists from other toddlers. They learn this from adults.
In any given 'wild' situation.. baby animals of sociable species split up as they hit adolescence.. between 'baby animal' stage and 'adolescent' stage... they mix with a WIDE range of other ages of animal of their species.. from similar aged animals to old ones and from nice ones to crabby ones and everything in between. When everyone in their social group is fed up of them, they go on their merry way... to seek their fortunes in the big wide world. Occasionally some buddy up for a while.. through choice, a choice made as adolescents and adults.
In your home there is no choice. They are stuck there, permanently, in a tiny space... those pups who would have grown up, spent time with other adult dogs, aunties and uncles and cousins .. who would have taught them all manner of things... have grown up with only each other. Who is to say at adolescent stage whether they will still love each other and choose to stick together, or whether they will hate one another with a vengeance.. and fight to the death. Certainly not you or I... and do you WANT to live with the possibility that this will happen and you will have to choose between your beloved pets? Or live with the fear that one day someone will leave a door open and Fluffy will rip Precious's head off? Or that King and Prince will fight and your toddler will get in the middle of it and get hurt?
Believe me.. splitting up puppies at 8 weeks is as easy as anything, compared with the horror of discovering one of your dogs wants to kill the other.
If you cant choose, toss a coin, let the breeder choose, go for a walk and think about it for a little while longer.. you will find a way of choosing, you have made harder choices before in your life and you will probably come across harder ones again in the future.
And finally... because the breeder offered you a discount?...
ANY breeder who is happy to sell people two puppies from the same litter, ESPECIALLY same sex littermates... has only one thing on their mind. Your money.
They don't care if the puppies live happily ever after, they don't care if you spend the next 12 years in a living hell, they don't care if you have to take one to the vet to be put down.... they just want your money.
The same goes btw for puppy mills, pet stores and back yard breeders and the breeders of wolf x or made up breeds, all who breed or sell pups without the health tests necessary, without care or consideration towards the parent dogs, without giving you the advice you need to make sure your pup lives a long and happy life. They are in it for the cash and nothing more.
So..you don't want two puppies to keep each other company cos you reckon you have the time... you arent doing it just because they are cute and you reckon the breeder is a responsible and reputable kinda person..
You still shouldn't get two puppies.
They will take three times the work of one, if not more, everything you do with one puppy.. you must do with the other puppy... separately AND together.
So that's three x the socialisation. Three x the training, three x the walkies..
Its also a million times harder to potty train two pups... because if you have them outside together they are playing and forget to poop.. put one inside whilst you do the other, the one indoors messes in the house..
Unless there are TWO adults fully committed to doing this work, in the same way as one another, or you have achieved omnipresence.. its going to take way WAY longer.
How many months of wee and poo on your floors are you going to be happy with? Because realistically, ONE puppy takes at least a couple of months to get reliably housetrained. Two... you could easily have half grown dogs still going in the house at six months or more old..
So..you need two adults to train them together.. and you cant leave them alone together because if you think one puppy can cause some destruction when left alone you haven't seen a THING compared to what two puppies can do.. eat your sofa? rip up your carpets.... or put them outside and see them eat through the neighbours fence and howl and play fight all day long...
And that is when they still like one another - wait until they reach sexual maturity and decide that this town ain't big enough for the both of them...
As I said at the beginning, there's always going to be someone you know or you heard of who reckons they made it work. I'd say for every 1 of those people who is actually telling the truth, 10 more are lying or at least glossing over some details. Ask more detailed questions, ask them where they can and cannot take their dogs.. you'll find out most likely that their dogs never leave the property, or cannot be separated because one yells the house down if the other leaves the building, or they cant be kept together because one wants to kill the other, or they cant be trusted around guests... or they wont walk nicely on the lead... or or or...
Question these folk who say it's ok, and find out if their lifestyle is actually anything like yours - maybe it did work for them, I'm not saying it never can, but there's a degree of luck there.. and maybe you find out that this person is home all day, has 10 acres of well fenced land and no neighbours for 100 miles in any direction. Maybe they show dogs or work them, there will be some details that mean what works for them may well NOT work out for you.
Most people make mistakes with puppies, we are after all only human and mistakes are something we humans do pretty well - one puppy undersocialised is a pain to deal with... two are a nightmare. By the time you realise that two puppies was a mistake though, very frequently its going to be one of those pups who suffers for your error the most.
If you have already got two puppies you might think I am over reacting or painting a very bleak picture to scare you - believe me I am not writing this to wee on anyone's parade here. We all have dogs because we like them and we have a vision in our heads of what our life with our adult dog is going to be like - its going to be fun and fairly carefree with our dog by our side, obeying our commands and having a ball.
By taking on two puppies at once you drastically reduce the chances of that becoming a reality - you only need to take a look in the rescue centres and shelters around the world to see that MILLIONS of people fail to raise ONE dog every single day.
Why make it any harder than it already is - the world is rapidly becoming less and less dog friendly and dogs are expected to behave impeccably in every situation. Give yourself the very BEST chance you AND your dog can have, of having a happy life together - get ONE pup at a time, from a reputable shelter or breeder. If you got two pups together and you are struggling with them now... TAKE ONE BACK. Re-home him or her... its a lot easier to do now at a few weeks old than it will be in 6 or 12 months time when its not just a struggle... very few people want to take on half grown out of control pups who have learned bad habits from their sibling.
If you decide to keep two puppies.. we will still offer you all the advice you need and want, this isn't a case of 'do what I say or we won't help' at all... this is about making life as easy, making success as easy as possible.. If you choose to do it the hard way we will still help, and we won't say 'I told you so'.. either.. Positive dog training starts before you even get your puppy, by making the right decisions, no matter HOW hard they might be.
I hope this helps people to decide what to do when they get a pup, or to make a hard decision having already got two pups.

Article by Sally Gutteridge

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Ever feel as if you have been misled, deceived or lied to by a veterinary practice ?
I haven't posted for a long time but somehow today I feel the need to return to the plight of Romanian rescue dogs in the UK .
The issue of foreign rescue dogs losing their lives here has not gone away, in fact if anything the situation is worsening with the tightening (and frightening) grip of the Corporates on our veterinary industry .
I feel the CMA completely missed the point .
Consumer choice is not solely about pricing it is also about policies
allowing a monopolistic stranglehold suffocates a choice in practice policies.

In the last few days alone I have seen:
One adopter not reaching out to offers of help but opting to have her dog of six years destroyed after testing positive
One adopter being asked £450 for a test which actually costs less than £50
One adopter who took her dog on holiday to Spain for five days now having it's non invasive treatment withheld while awaiting test results .
One adopter being told all her dogs must be tested as one of her pack originated from Romania .(Now there is a nice little earner )

Now dogs from Romania need APHA negative test results to enter the country (it is not retrospective as some appear to have been told ) you might think this would alleviate this threat to Romanian dogs...
But rescues do not relax...
Many practices are demanding re testing three months after arrival on the grounds the dog could have caught it on the transport.
Well yes, if it were an air born virus which it is not .
Well yes, if the dogs all travelled loose in the back of the transport van mating merrily on the journey which they don't.

The issue with the re test is that the flawed and inconclusive iElisa test tends to throw out pretty random results , so it is perfectly feasible that a dog could get a "positive" three months down the line despite having a negative before travel not because it has suddenly become infected... that is the job of the SAT test to detect (not always accurately ) but because of flaws in the iElisa test itself .
Then all you need for a disaster is an adopter not on Facebook totally reliant on the knowledge and integrity of their vet .
Or an adopter who prefers to believe their "professional " over the testimony of hundreds who live without any ill effect with a iElisa positive dog or reject any interpretation by someone with specialist knowledge on this disease .
(Most vets are not specialists in this field in fact the honest have admitted to not knowing much about it, hence the frequent confusion with other strains of brucellosis)

Why is the Brucella Canis phobia continuing ?
We know there are hidden agendas but what justification is most commonly given by the vet practices themselves ?
First and foremost is that it is zoonotic .
This is certainly true but...
With thousands of foreign rescue dogs in the UK over the last fifteen years I think the latest information in the table below should allay any rational person's fears .
Secondly it transmits to other dogs .
Certainly it can through mating but there is no evidence of transmission from neutered or spayed asymptomatic dogs (which covers the vast majority of Romanian rescues in this country )even when labelled positive on the back of that pernicious use of the iElisa test .
Rather emerging data (if anyone in the veterinary world is remotely interested ) shows hundreds of positive dogs living in the same households with negative dogs .
No transmission has taken place which shouldn't be surprising when you consider the iElisa test is not evidence of an infection, Brucella Canis is a venereal disease primarily transmitted through reproductive fluids and that most rescues are neutered.
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So next time someone says to you the dog is a danger because the disease is zoonotic show them the latest government figures of actual cases and next time someone in a vet practice tells you people working in their practice have caught it /died from it reach for a pinch of salt .

It's almost time again for our Reunion Dog Walk (an important and vital fundraiser) held just once a year now, with all the proceeds going to Give a Dog a Home UK and Spay it Forward:


Saturday 11 October  - 1.30 pm start  (Registration from 12.30 pm)
Seven Sisters Car Park, Cuckmere Haven, East Sussex, BN25 4AD
 
We hope you can join us.
 
We have been told that changes are afoot for the area next year, so we are not sure if we will be able to hold our Walk. 2025 may be the last therefore, so let’s make it a great one! We have a different photographer this year, Tash Merchant, who will be taking professional ‘headshots’ of individual dogs in a photo booth!
 
We are looking forward to catching up with old friends and new!
 
Please RSVP to this email so we can estimate numbers. 

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This is a confidential, safe and supportive community for dog owners dealing with Brucella Canis.
Whether your dog has tested positive or you're just concerned about testing, please know that a positive result is NOT a death sentence for your dog.
I'm a fellow owner of a BC+ rescue dog, so know first-hand the stress and shock that comes with the initial diagnosis. I went against the vet's recommendation of euthanasia and my dog is leading a happy and healthy life - so can yours!
The aim of this page is to help you find the support and understanding you need during this challenging time, or just answer any questions that you might have.
DISCLAIMER - we accept practice feedback forms in good faith but do not take responsibility for insuring that the information is 100% accurate. This is a dynamic situation and changing all the time therefore the veterinary database may only act as a guide, you are strongly recommended to ask your own questions of any practice.
Julie Rowan is a former bereavement counsellor, providing support to members in a voluntary capacity, not a replacement for professional support. Instead, Julie should be though of a BC friend 'with emotional support benefits' due to her additional background knowledge and expertise, and ability to also help signpost owners to other resources that might be beneficial.

If you have a foreign dog, please read this.

I run a charity and was contacted by one of our adopters on 31st October as her dog was unwell. She adopted Benji in 2018 from foster care after he had been imported in 2017 as a puppy.

Benji was unwell and the vet wanted a BC test before treating him. After outrage from his adopters fuelled with information from us and their own research the vet treated Benji for an abccess whilst awaiting the BC results. He made a full recovery

However on 13th November his BC results came back POSITIVE and his owners were encouraged to book euthanasia as well as being told their dog would no longer receive treatment from the practice. His results were
SAT negative
iElisa 1.593

Luckily, Benji's adopters had armed themselves with every available paper and resource so they were aware that the chance of a FALSE POSITIVE due to illness/infection was high.
So they asked for him to be retested when fully recovered and medication free. He was tested again on Monday 20th and the result came back this morning NEGATIVE.
SAT negative
iElisa 1.23
iElisa 1.47 or above is considered a positive result.

So now Benji does not have Brucella (which we knew all along) and can continue to live an unrestricted and long life. But, had his adopters followed the advice of their vets, he would have been killed - a perfectly healthy dog that was taken to his vet with toothache.

So my advice to you all is this:

1. Don't be afraid to have your dog tested for BC but don't allow your vet to test when they've been taken in for injury/illness - infection AND medication (including vaccinations) can manipulate the results. Tell the vet if they require a negative BC result before administering treatment, then they should have asked for a test BEFORE the dog became unwell!

2. Do not make any impulse decisions such as euthanasia or surrender. Speak to someone who knows more about BC than you and take your time to process.

3. If you do receive a 'positive' result, get the written confirmation, speak to your vet about their policy regarding BC+ dogs and GET A SECOND TEST 3 months later or when your dog is not unwell/on any medication.
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Unfortunately, one of our dogs has previously been euthanised following a similar 'positive' result. I've no doubt that he too would have tested negative if given the same chance that Benji got. But he didn't and an impulse decision was made.

​70 people attended (about 40 dogs) and we took £1250. Over 50% of the funds raised were from registration and donations on the day- you were so generous! 50% will go to our neutering arm, Spay It Forward, so it can continue it’s vital work paying for small trusted rescues to neuter their dogs and those outside their shelters
Sincere and eternal thanks to all those lovely people who made the effort - we know who you are and we bless you!

We have two legs that make us high off the floor. This makes a hello very difficult for our dogs. And when they do go to say hello with an appropriate muzzle sniff, they are often met with people shouting at them and pushing them away.
We leave food in easy to reach places, kitchen worksurfaces, coffee tables, bins. Perfect places for our dogs to do what has kept them alive as a species for thousands of years. scavenging and foraging, using their nose to find food. And us weird humans shout and get angry, wonder why our dinner got stolen and think of them as bad dogs.
We think sniffing natural things like dead animals and urine is disgusting and yet we constantly try to cover up any natural smells we have with chemicals, often toxic to the world around us. Detergents, perfumes, chemical sprays. We must smell overwhelming and pretty horrid to our canine friends.
We greet each other with a friendly smile, only touching each other when we give consent to do so. And yet we often greet out dogs by leaning over them, patting them on their head. If we greeted humans the way we greeted dogs it wouldn't be long before we had no friends and were arrested for assault.
We leave our dogs alone when we go out or put them in separate rooms. We use doors to confine them when it suits our daily needs. Then we wonder why this hyper-social animal feels distressed.
We have these rather odd things called hands. We touch and feel things with them. We use them to navigate the world, we grasp and pull, we hold and touch. Our dogs don't have hands, they have mouths. They use these to navigate the world around them and yet when they bite and chew, they are often told off.
We talk. We natter away, this jumble of noises that only people from the same place as us can understand. Some of us may be able to speak to some other humans from a few different countries but often struggle even with our own language. Dogs are fantastic communicators. Being able to communicate with other dogs all over the world. How confusing must our jibber jabber be to them? They often understand us a lot better than we understand them and when they do communicate with a bark they are labelled a nuisance.
They can only eat, sleep, have sex, play, socialise, run, sniff, hunt, be free, be dogs! when we enable or allow it.
Our dogs are ridiculously tolerant of our weird human ways.
We owe it to them to be just as tolerant. We owe it to them to learn more about them, communicate and teach them in ways they understand.
They do not have unrealistic expectations of us, they don’t judge or shout at us when we get things wrong. Let's try and be as tolerant and patient with them as they are with us.

Credit - Speak Dog Education with Rebecca Hanlon